Hugh Owens and Robert Sungenis Interview: Copernicus – The Mike Church Show

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Special Guests: Hugh Owens and Robert Sungenis

• HUGH OWEN – His main cretic of the Kolbe Center is…we misrepresent the original teachings of the Church.
• Sacred history of Genesis – the magisterium has not defined once and for all.
• 1853 a Catholic was free to withhold his consent to the Immaculate Conception.
• There are many things that are part of our holy traditions that are contained in our teachings.
• Some traditional Catholics seem to have canonized the theological manuals as if everything was fine before Vatican II.
• FreeMasons Book can be read here for free: LibriVox
• Science had proven the Earth was hundreds of thousands of years old so do not trust Genesis as the actual beginning of the Earth.
• ROBERT SUNGENIS – If the solar system is at the center of the solar system, then doesn’t that put US in the center? The answer is YES.
• This is what science tells us.
• If the Milky Way is in the center, then that too puts us in the center of the universe.
• It seems Fr. Robinson has had his mind made up and he ignores evidence that doesn’t support HIS ideals.
• We have been accused of forcing Catholics to accept doctrine.
• HUGH OWENS – This was not a minor matter. If you read what they actually wrote, they reject the Pagan natures the Romans around them believed in.
• The Fathers of the Church took every word in sacred scripture as Word of Truth.
• That means this was an accurate account of what God did and what Jesus did.
• It was meant to be taken at face value. No exceptions.
• Why don’t we compromise on this?
• From the Beginning….
• ROBERT SUNGENIS – is Mr. Owen correct? YES..100%
• The Protestant/Lutheran has many videos out there and it is more Catholic than most Catholic videos.
• Protestant Fundamentals that take the bible literally…well who were the first fundamentals of the Christian faith? The Catholics!
• Is there any evidence for that claim?
• The biggest commentary that the Catholic Church posses.
• HUGH OWENS – Genesis According To The Saints (available in the FTP)
• Genesis 1:1
• We just have to remain rooted in the Catholic Church. God has made so we don’t go off the rails.
• The natural order of things – anyone who understands this one point, will quickly be able to make sense of everything.
• The whole work of creation was SUPERNATURAL.
• He stopped creating new kinds of creatures after he created Adam and Eve.
• Modern Science is wrong b/c it is based on the false philosophy that the same natural processes have been operating since the very beginning of the universe.
• How does a local flood make an entire world perish?
• 2 Peter 3
• This is a lie from the pit of hell.
• Question 73 on creation – 7th day the universe begins to operate autonomously